St George of England

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  Question #1 for JW's to offer an explanation

  by BoogerMan in

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  the r&f jw's are defined by the wtbts as antitypical "foreigners," and as such, are not participants of the new covenant:.

  wt 98 2/1 p.19, par.

  6 - "further, other sheep lay hold of the new covenant just as foreigners of old laid hold of the law covenant.

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  Clearly, the Bible needs to be corrected on this point.

  George
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  What Ended in 1914?

  by BoogerMan in

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  1913!.

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  In 1897 someone wrote to Russell to ask how the system could continue for another 17 years as things were so bad. His reply was that 1914 was not the end but the beginning, by then Armageddon would all be over and everything restored to perfection and the Holy Ones would be home in heaven.

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  Date of Adam's "Creation?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  how do jws resolve these conflicting facts.. 1. no matter how you spin it, bible chronology calculates to circa 4000 bc for adam's creation.

  i followed the trail many years ago and that's what it adds up to.. 2. the most cursory investigation of any branch of relevant science puts man's habitation on the earth as hugely earlier than that.

  it's now so well-proved that anyone disputing it is guilty of wilful ignorance.

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  Both the Creation account (4026 BCE), Adam & Eve etc, and the Flood, are allegorical tales that were handed down by word of mouth over millennia. The fact that Jesus, if indeed he existed, spoke about these events is purely for the reason that ordinary people would be familiar with them and understood the meaning he was putting to them.

  Personally I do not believe Jesus was in heaven at any time or had any part in creation. These days I am an atheist. In fact it was research into the flood story and subsequently creation and then 607.... and the pack of cards just crumbled.

  There is so much evidence for humans thousands of years before the so called creation account that even uber-JW Sis England no longer argues against it.

  George
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  UFO's or Unidentified Aerial Fenomena....

  by mikeflood in

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  what do you guys think....the topic seems to being on fashion lately.

  some in the borg told me one time "of course, they are for real, they could be angels, demons".. .

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  Is there intelligent life in outer space?

  The fact that they've never made contact with us sure seems likely.

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  No beards...even Jesus! Strange Watchower rule for brothers!

  by Witness 007 in

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  watchtower 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower publications now show jesus with short hair and no beard?

  because he is shown that way in older representations of him that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures.".

  watchtower 1968 p.286 "bible evidence and a recent review shows that jesus did have a beard..." charles russell style of beard was popular at bethel...till rutherford took over.

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  Yearbook 1974 pp 97-8:-

  But more equipment was needed. For that reason Brother Balzereit asked Brother Rutherford for permission to buy a rotary press. Brother Rutherford saw the necessity and agreed, but on one condition. He had noticed that over the years Brother Balzereit had grown a beard very similar to the one that had been worn by Brother Russell. His example soon caught on, for there were others who also wanted to look like Brother Russell. This could give rise to a tendency toward creature worship, and Brother Rutherford wanted to prevent this. So during his next visit, within hearing of all the Bible House family, he told Brother Balzereit that he could buy the rotary press but only on the condition that he shave off his beard. Brother Balzereit sadly agreed and afterward went to the barber. During the next few days there were several cases of mistaken identity and some funny situations because of the “stranger” who was sometimes not recognized by his fellow workers.

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  Hello Everyone

  by JohnPaul in

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  hi everyone i would like to say hello to everyone,.

  i just started attending kingdom hall about a month ago now and am doing bible study with a brother..

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  A pound to a penny says this guy's a troll.

  Sorry JP but at my age I have a distrust of people, especially if they mistake the most famous apostate site for a JW's only site.

  If you're not a troll then my advice is to drop the "study" and RUN LIKE HELL!

  George
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  Hotel Bossert facing foreclosure

  by RolRod in

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  so the hotel bossert once owned by the society is facing foreclosure .

  https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2022/05/06/brooklyn-heights-hotel-bossert-reported-to-be-in-pre-foreclosure/.

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  Not so easy to turn a profit when you have to actually pay employees and taxes.

  George
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  What have you forgotten you ever even knew?

  by Simon in

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  at a certain point, as the years tick by, you start to realize that you have forgotten a lot of things.

  typically, something you learned, some knowledge or skill you used to have, that you just haven't used for so long you no longer remember anything but that you once knew it.. i saw an article about electrical resistors the other day, and how the colored bands signify the rating.

  now all i remember is that i used to know it, and that resistors do something with, erm, electricity ...

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  Was that the one that ends in " but Violet gives willingly"?

  ........But (Blue) Virgins (Violet) Go (Grey) Wisely (White) is the way I was taught. Interestingly, it was a black guy who first told me that one. I told him that it was racist and he just laughed.

  George

  
  
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  When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?

  by slimboyfat in

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  does anyone know what year?

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  How many jws know that before 1970, at the WT Study, the questions were asked first, answers given, and then the paragraph was read

  Reading the paragraphs first was a soft option when conducting a Bible Study with someone and was frowned upon. Instructions for conducting the WT Study from 1953, this would wake up a few today.

  WT 53 8/1 pp458-9:-

  Starting the study itself, he will propound the printed question found at the bottom of the page provided for the first paragraph of the assigned study. Those in the audience may volunteer by raising their hands, and answering when called upon by the conductor. However, the conductor may call upon someone in the congregation without that one’s volunteering.

  It is assumed that all have studied the lesson in advance and know the answers as contained in the paragraphs. There are many who hesitate to volunteer a comment, but who will speak when called upon. This method may also cause some who have become negligent in advance study of the lesson to recover from the bad habit they have drifted into.

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  My story

  by PimoElder in

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  hi everyone i’m a pimo elder ex bethelite and pioneer who has been having doubts for many years.

  as of late i’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the gb pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies .

  i will never take these vaccines even if it meant i couldn’t go to the hall as was previously said but the gb have done a big u turn on this now.

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  St George of England

  Welcome. Are you able to tell us in which country you are based?

  George